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LINE VOLTAGE DOWNLIGHTS – FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
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1. Are your line voltage downlights U.L. listed?

Yes, they are U.L. and C.U.L. listed. You can find listed products at www.ul.com.

2. How do I decide between which housings to use?
First you need to determine whether this is a new construction or a remodeling situation. Then determine if the housing will be in contact with insulation (IC housing) or not (Non-IC). Next determine your wattage requirements. Finally check our web site for fixture dimensions and trims selection.

3. Can your housings be used on a drop ceiling? If so, how?

Yes, use a new construction housings. The hanger bars rest on the T-Bars and are secured in position.

4. I am not sure which trim I should use for my application, which type should I use for general ambient lighting?

Both the Basic Baffle and Open Specular will be good choices. The baffle helps reduce glare while the specular reflector will increase the spread of light from the fixture.

5. I want to use some screw-in compact fluorescent lamps in your model Rxx downlight. Is that possible?

Yes. However, there are two important points to keep in mind when planning to do this. First, will the lamp properly fit within the housing? Your screw-in CFL lamp may extend beyond the lip of the housing, which will cause an unpleasant look. Second, some trims are designed around specific lamp types. If you use a “cone” style trim that should have a reflector style lamp, if you use a “spiral” type CFL then much of the light output will not be distributed properly. Whenever you are considering using a screw-in lamp in place of an incandescent in any downlight, it is best to check with the manufacturer for compatibility recommendations.

6. Can these fixtures be installed in a bathroom?
Yes - they are all suitable for damp locations (porch or bathroom) using any trim. Wet locations, above a shower or outdoors, require the use of specific trims. Consult our, for our current offerings.

6. What downlight is the best choice for installation in an attic or other hot environment?

The W.A.C. downlights are U.L. approved for most ceiling applications. For applications in unusually extreme conditions we recommend IC-Rated cans with PAR lamps. This combination will give you a housing and lamp that is the most durable and low maintenance choice for this type of environment.

7. Please explain what you mean by Air-Tight downlight and why would I want to use one?
Any air-tight rated downlight has demonstrated in an independent testing laboratory environment that it will prevent air flow through the fixture. This is important because it saves money in heating and cooling costs. Just as important, some state regulations are now requiring that new home construction use this type of downlight.

8. Do any of the fixtures come with lamps?
No. Our downlights use lamps that are readily available in all electrical supply centers.

9. The recessed lights I have in my bedroom are giving too much light. What can I do about it?
There are three simple solutions to your problem. 1. you may install a lower wattage lamp. With all incandescent downlights you can simply use the lowest wattage lamp available using the same base type. 2. you may use a coated specialty lamp. Most major lamp manufacturers are now making “color corrected” frosted incandescent lamps that provide a softer white light that does not seem as harsh as the light provided by a standard light frosted incandescent lamp. 3. you may install a dimmer to lower the light level. The additional benefit of this choice is it will extend your lamp life.

10. What is the difference between the remodel and new construction housings?
New construction housings are mounted to joists or T-Bar type ceiling grids. Remodel housings are use after a drywall ceiling is installed. A hole is made, the housing slips through and is mounted to the drywall panel with spring clips.

11. How do I choose between the different size downlights?

For aesthetic reasons you may want to choose the smallest aperture size, but consider the various lamp wattages available for the aperture size. For example a 4” fixture is limited to a 50watt maximum par lamp, which will be suitable for most 8’ ceilings but not higher. Generally a 5” aperture will take up to 75 watts and a 6” to 150watt lamps.

12. How many downlights should I use to light a room?
This one of the most frequently asked questions, and one that does not have a standard answer. The light level and coverage varies greatly with room usage. For general lighting applications a good rule of thumb is to space fixtures not more than half the ceiling height. For example if a room has an 8’ ceiling you would not exceed 4’ between fixtures. This ensures even coverage but may be far more than a den needs and less than a reading area or work station needs. Use this principle as a base line.

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LOW VOLTAGE DOWNLIGHTS – FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS


1. Are these products U.L. listed?
Yes they are U.L. & C.U.L. listed, you can find listed products at www.ul.com.

2. You have many categories of low voltage trim styles, how do I select one?
Trims are arranged by aperture size even though all use MR16 lamps (with the exception of the HRD329 shower trim). We have 3”, 4” 5” and 6” aperture sizes. The basic choices are based on aesthetics of the various trims.

3. How do I decide which trims fit which housings ?

Every trim has a series of corresponding housing choices. Consult our web site.

4. How do I choose a housing?

You need to first determine whether this is a new construction or a remodeling situation. Then determine if the housing will be in contact with insulation (I/C housing) or not (Non-IC). Next determine your wattage requirements. The greatest range of housing options can be found in the 4” Diecast series. Check our web site for dimensions and applicable trims. A matrix or our 4” magnetic transformer housings is shown below.

FEATURE HR-8401H HR-8401HF HR-8402H HR-8402HF HR-8402HL HR-8402HFL HR-8403H HR-8403HF
Wattage 50W 50W 50W 50W 75W 75W 50W 50W
Input 120V 277V 120V 277V 120V 277V 120V 277V
Usage Remodeling Remodeling New Construction New Construction New Construction New Construction New Construction New Construction
Lamp type 20-50W Max MR16 20-50W Max MR16 20-50W Max MR16 20-50W Max MR16 50-75W Max MR16 50-75W Max MR16 20-50W Max MR16 20-50W Max MR16
Insulation 3" Clearance (Non I/C) 3" Clearance (Non I/C) 3" Clearance (Non I/C) 3" Clearance (Non I/C) 3" Clearance (Non I/C) 3" Clearance (Non I/C) Direct Contact (I/C) Direct Contact (I/C)
Replacement Transformer HR-8001 HR-8001F HR-8002 HR-8002F HR-8002L HR-8002FL HR-8003 HR-8003F

5. Can the trims be installed without a can or housing?
No. You must use a can or housing with the trims.

6. Is there a low volt remodeling housing rated for insulation contact?
No. The IC rating is only found in new construction housings.

7. Can the hanger bars on your HR-8400 series new construction cans be moved to accommodate joists running perpendicular?
Yes, hanger bars can be used on all four sides of the housing.

8. Can your housings be used on a drop ceiling? If so, how?
Yes, Use a new construction housings. The hanger bars rest on the top of the “T” bars and are secured in position.

9. Can these fixtures be installed in the bathroom?
Yes - they are suitable for damp locations (porch or bathroom), but not wet locations (above a shower or outdoors).

10. I have a concrete ceiling, must I use housings with low volt trims?
Yes. National electrical codes require the use of housings for all installations.

11. Can low volt trims use accessory lenses?
Yes – trims may be fitted with an accessory lens ( such as a frosted or colored lens) in place of the clear glass lens supplied.

12. How do I know when to order sockets, and when not to order sockets?
All housings are equipped with sockets. Only the HR-8425 requires a special socket, and it is supplied with the trim.

13. Can the housings be installed in the attic where it gets really hot in the summer?
The magnetic transformers (rated class “H”), has a 80ºC or 176ºF heat tolerance. They are a better choice to be installed in the attic.

14. How much current does each 50watt downlight draw?
50/120V = 0.42Amp.

15. Do any of the downlights come with bulbs?
No – you may purchase the MR16 lamps separately.

16. Why do I need to order the lamps separately?
Mirrored reflector lamps like an MR16 come in a wide variety of beam spreads. Since we can not know which beam spread might be best for your particular installation, ordering the lamp separately allows you to select the best lamp for your project.

17. Why would I want to use a remote transformer separate from the housing?
A remote transformer is a disadvantage with ceiling recessed lights. The wiring must use the same techniques and enclosures as used with line voltage. It’s easier to bring wires right to a junction box that’s attached to the housing.

18. I am concerned with a voltage drop in my application. Do you have any guidelines on the subject?
This is only an issue when using either the HR-800 or HR-806 To minimize a voltage drop and lessened light output, the transformer should be located as close to the fixture as possible. A drop of 5% or less is generally acceptable. The chart below is a guideline to keep the drop below 5%.

WIRE SIZE 35W 50W 75W
18 Gauge 8' 8' 6'
16 Gauge 12' 12' 10'
14 Gauge 16' 16' 14'
12 Gauge 20' 20' 18'


19. Why would I choose a magnetic transformer housing as opposed to an electronic model?

You may want to an existing controls or dimming system. The magnetic transformer downlights require magnetic low voltage dimmers. The other primary use for magnetic models is in high heat or cold applications, since magnetic transformers are more tolerant of more unusual temperature environments.

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LOW VOLTAGE BUTTON/MINIATURE RECESSED – FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

1. Are these fixtures U.L. listed?
Yes, they are U.L. & C.U.L. listed. You can find listed products at www.ul.com.

2. What are the main features of these miniature low voltage fixtures?


FEATURE HR-86 Button Light HR-88 Button Light HR-1135, HR-1136, HR1137 Mini's HR-1138, HR-1139 Mini-Flush Lights
Lamping 12V 20W Xenon
Bi-Pin
12V 20W Halogen
Bi-Pin
12V 20-35W Halogen MR11 12V 20W Halogen Bi-Pin
Lamp Included Yes Yes No Yes
Transformer Required Remote Class II Remote Class II Remote Class II Remote Class II
Mounting Options Surface Mount
or Recessed
Surface Mount
or Recessed
Recessed Recessed


3. In what types of applications would you recommend using these Low Voltage fixtures?

They are ideal for shelving, cabinets and displays.

4. Can any of these fixtures be mounted in a drywall ceiling?

No. They are designed for use as cabinet style lights.

5. Please explain the mounting options for the Button Lights.

Each button light comes with a shallow back cover or “housing”. When used as a recessed fixture, you will not need the back cover. The cutout hole size is 2-3/8" (a pop-out template is included). If installed as a surface mounted fixture, you will need the decorative back cover.

6. What transformer can I use with these fixtures?
All of the LOW VOLT BUTTON / MINIATURE RECESSED units are UL listed as requiring a Class II transformer. We offer a plug in or a hard wired model.

7. What is a Class II transformer?
A Class II transformer is inherently limited to not more than 60 watts. It is a low energy device and considered intrinsically safe. Secondary wiring from a Class II transformer does not require conduit and clamp wiring techniques.

8. Can I order a frosted lens for the Button Lights?
Yes - LENS-45-FR.

9. Can I use a UV lens with the Button Lights?
No – our UV lenses are only available in the standard MR16 and MR11 sizes.

10. What is the length of the socket lead wire that comes with the Button Lights?
The length of the lead wire is 72". It may be spliced to additional wire for longer length. However heavier
gauge wires should be used to avoid voltage drop (see table from question 15).

11. How many Button Light fixtures will I require on 6’ run under the cabinet?
Generally, from an 18” height, a Button Light (or any 20W mini fixture) will provide sufficient light for 20” – 24” of space. So a 6’ run will require 3 fixtures.

12. Do I need to order a housing (can) for the MR11 or Mini Flush Lights?
No - they each have a built-in housing as part of the fixture.

13. Are the HR-1138 and HR-1139 available with a clear glass cover?
No - just frosted.

14. In a low voltage situation (12V) like a motor home or a boat, would I require a transformer for my fixtures?
Most RV’s and boats operate under 12V. Transformers are not necessary.

15. I am concerned with a voltage drop in my application. Do you have any guidelines on the subject?
To minimize voltage drop or reduced light output, the transformer should be located as close to the
fixture as possible. A drop of up to 5% is generally acceptable. The chart below details a guideline to
keep the drop below 5%.

WIRE SIZE 35W 50W 75W
18 Gauge 8' 8' 6'
16 Gauge 12' 12' 10'
14 Gauge 16' 16' 14'
12 Gauge 20' 20' 18'
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COMPACT FLUORESCENT DOWNLIGHTS – FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

1. Are your Compact Fluorescent downlights U.L. approved?
Yes, they are U.L. and C.U.L. listed. You can find listed products at www.ul.com.

2. How do I decide between which housings to use?
We offer both single vertical lamp or double lamp horizontal housings. The vertical lamp position has superior photometrics but requires a high ceiling space. Evaluate your light level requirements and determine your lamp wattage. Consult our web site
www.waclighting.com, for fixture dimensions and trim selection.

3. Can your housings be used on a drop ceiling? If so, how?
Yes, on a new construction housing, the hanger bars rest on the T-Bars and are secured in position.

4. Can these fixtures be installed in a bathroom?

Yes - they are all suitable for damp locations (porch or bathroom) using any trim. Wet locations, above a shower or outdoors, require the use of specific lensed trims. Consult web site for our current offerings.

5. Do any of the fixtures come with bulbs?

No. Our Compact Fluorescent downlights use lamps that are readily available in all electrical supply centers.

6. Why would I want to use a Compact Fluorescent downlight instead of an Incandescent downlight?

Compact Fluorescent downlights provide the same output as incandescent lamps but use only 1⁄4 the amount of energy. So you could use a 26W CFL unit in place of a 100W incandescent unit. In addition the average life hours of compact fluorescent lamps far exceeds the hours of incandescent lamps. Most fluorescent lamps are rated 10,000 hours as opposed to 1500 hours for a halogen Par lamp.
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MULTIPLE RECESSED SPOTS – FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

1. Are the multiple spots U.L. listed?
Yes, they are U.L. and C.U.L. listed. You can find listed products at www.ul.com.

2. What are the different ways I can order the multiple spots?

We offer low and line voltage multi-spots in the following configurations:
Housing Lamps Wattage Voltage # of Lights
MT-136 AR111/PAR36 50W 12V 1
MT-236 AR111/PAR36 50W 12V 2
MT-336 AR111/PAR36 50W 12V 3
MT-116 MR16 50W 12V 1
MT-216 MR16 50W 12V 2
MT-316 MR16 50W 12V 3
MT-138 PAR38 75W-150W 120V 1
MT-238 PAR38 75W-150W 120V 2


3. Can I dim these fixtures?

Yes. The low voltage Multi-Spots can be dimmed with electronic low voltage dimmers. The line voltage PAR38 units can be dimmed with standard incandescent or low voltage dimmers.

4. Are these fixtures adjustable?

Yes, each lamp has 15° aiming and 360° rotation

5. Do you have these fixtures available for remodeling applications?
No. These fixtures are designed for new construction applications or suspended ceilings.

6. Do these units come with hanger-bars?
Yes, they come with hanger-bars as well as brackets to fit over T-Bars.

7. What do I get when I order a W.A.C. Multiple Spot?

The Multi-Spot is made up of two components, the housing and the trim. The housing comes ready for installation in the ceiling. The low voltage housings come complete with low voltage electronic transformers. The trim is a separate line item since you must choose your desired color. Both parts need to be ordered to have a complete unit.

8. Can each lamp be controlled individually?
No. All lamps operate in unison.
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